Something magical happens when daylight savings finally rolls around. It's like the weight of the long, cold winter is finally lifted and summer feels like it's just around the corner. Sure enough, it's slowly starting to warm up here in Melbourne and it's hard not to be excited about the opportunities for great riding in the months ahead.

One of the rides I'm most looking forward to is the Domestique 7 Peaks Ride at Lake Mountain on Sunday November 13. It's hard to believe that this is the fifth year that my good friend Andy and I have run these rides, but here we are!

For those that aren't familiar with Domestique, it's a collaboration between this site and the cycling collective that Andy heads up: Hells 500. Andy and I had been fans of the 7 Peaks Alpine Ascent Challenge (as it was called then - now 7 Peaks Ride) from the start and in 2012 we decided to organise some rides to coincide with the Challenge. Our goal: introduce people to the satisfaction of riding in the hills and help them to conquer the great mountains that our state of Victoria has to offer. It didn't matter whether you'd never climbed a mountain before or if you were a competitive local racer -- the ride was open to all, and free.

Four years on, those ideals haven't changed. Sure, the rides might look a little different than they once did -- doing 12 rides throughout the summer simply isn't feasible any more -- but the Domestique 7 Peaks rides are still free, they're still inclusive, and they're still a great day out, whether you're climbing Lake Mountain for the first time, trying to get yourself into some form ahead of the summer, or deep into your training for the upcoming Tour of Bright.

So get a bunch of mates together, or come by yourself. It really doesn't matter. With so many cyclists there you'll always find someone to ride with, and you'll always have a "carrot" up the road, spurring you on! One thing we can guarantee is that there'll be a friendly, welcoming atmosphere on the day and that you'll almost certainly have a great time. Even when it's been cold and wet up there in the past we've had fun! (Of course we'll be pulling as many strings as we can to ensure great weather this year ...)

2014 Lake Mountain Bunch

So what are you doing on Sunday November 13? We do hope you'll join us. The event starts at Gallipoli Park in Marysville at 9am with a quick rider briefing, after which we'll be sending you off in waves. Then it's just about settling in to a rhythm and climbing your way to the Lake Mountain resort at your own pace.

To register for the ride, click here (again, it's free). To stay up to date on the ride, head through to the Facebook event page. And to learn more about Domestique Cycling, head to the website.

And finally, if you're keen to see what the ride will be like, click the links below for reports and photos from the past four years:

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Obviously it depends on the distance you choose but how does Fitz's Challenge compare to the 3 Peaks Challenge? Looks like a bloody hard ride! http://www.fitzs.com.au/

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The rides are quite different. On 3PC you can focus on the 3 main climbs, plus maybe the hillocks either side of Omeo, and otherwise just stay out of trouble on the descents and manage yourself over the distance.

At Fitz's the hills are shorter, and steep gradients are a regular feature around the course. The longest hill at Fitz's takes 45 minutes.

At 3PC, Hotham and Falls take around two hours for an average reasonably fit rider. Taking the course as a whole, there are four steep sections on Hotham, and obviously extended steep sections up Falls, but otherwise the gradients are manageable. Good descending is more important at 3PC than Fitz's.

I see 3PC as more of a climbers course, Fitz's is more of a hard person's course.

The "normal" 208 km of Fitz's is definitely not as hard as 3PC. The 255 km version is definitely harder.

Both rides were changed this year, although the changes at Fitz's was more minor. But taking 2012 results, where both rides had their "normal" courses for myself and some friends who did both (noting much smaller numbers at Fitz's, the 208 km had 136 finishers, whilst the 255 km had 44 finishers and 15 who started but did not finish). The 2012 3PC, the "good" year, had 881 finishers, and only about 60 who started and didn't finish.

208 km Fitz riders:

Me: 8 hours 52 at Fitz for 18th, 11h 10 at 3PC for 283rd home.
DK: Same as me at Fitz, 10 h 11 at 3PC for 108th.

255 km Fitz riders:

PB: 10h 38 at Fitz's for 14th, 8 h 57 at 3PC for 15th.
JE: same as PB at Fitz's, 9h 32 at 3PC for 42nd.

FWIW PB and JE are very different riders - PB is one of the best climbers I know, small build and big engine, with extensive racing experience. At the end of Fitz's 2012 he looked like a used dishrag, he was absolutely spent. JE doesn't race but is one of the strongest Audax riders around, and is doing the Sydney to Melbourne epic next week, and was slightly better off.

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Something magical happens when daylight savings finally rolls around. It's like the weight of the long, cold winter is finally lifted and summer feels like it's just around the corner. Sure enough, it's slowly starting to warm up here in Melbourne and it's hard not to be excited about the opportunities for great riding in the months ahead.

One of the rides I'm most looking forward to is the Domestique 7 Peaks Ride at Lake Mountain on Sunday November 13. It's hard to believe that this is the fifth year that my good friend Andy and I have run these rides, but here we are!

For those that aren't familiar with Domestique, it's a collaboration between this site and the cycling collective that Andy heads up: Hells 500. Andy and I had been fans of the 7 Peaks Alpine Ascent Challenge (as it was called then - now 7 Peaks Ride) from the start and in 2012 we decided to organise some rides to coincide with the Challenge. Our goal: introduce people to the satisfaction of riding in the hills and help them to conquer the great mountains that our state of Victoria has to offer. It didn't matter whether you'd never climbed a mountain before or if you were a competitive local racer -- the ride was open to all, and free.

Four years on, those ideals haven't changed. Sure, the rides might look a little different than they once did -- doing 12 rides throughout the summer simply isn't feasible any more -- but the Domestique 7 Peaks rides are still free, they're still inclusive, and they're still a great day out, whether you're climbing Lake Mountain for the first time, trying to get yourself into some form ahead of the summer, or deep into your training for the upcoming Tour of Bright.

So get a bunch of mates together, or come by yourself. It really doesn't matter. With so many cyclists there you'll always find someone to ride with, and you'll always have a "carrot" up the road, spurring you on! One thing we can guarantee is that there'll be a friendly, welcoming atmosphere on the day and that you'll almost certainly have a great time. Even when it's been cold and wet up there in the past we've had fun! (Of course we'll be pulling as many strings as we can to ensure great weather this year ...)

2014 Lake Mountain Bunch

So what are you doing on Sunday November 13? We do hope you'll join us. The event starts at Gallipoli Park in Marysville at 9am with a quick rider briefing, after which we'll be sending you off in waves. Then it's just about settling in to a rhythm and climbing your way to the Lake Mountain resort at your own pace.

To register for the ride, click here (again, it's free). To stay up to date on the ride, head through to the Facebook event page. And to learn more about Domestique Cycling, head to the website.

And finally, if you're keen to see what the ride will be like, click the links below for reports and photos from the past four years:

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Obviously it depends on the distance you choose but how does Fitz's Challenge compare to the 3 Peaks Challenge? Looks like a bloody hard ride! http://www.fitzs.com.au/

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The rides are quite different. On 3PC you can focus on the 3 main climbs, plus maybe the hillocks either side of Omeo, and otherwise just stay out of trouble on the descents and manage yourself over the distance.

At Fitz's the hills are shorter, and steep gradients are a regular feature around the course. The longest hill at Fitz's takes 45 minutes.

At 3PC, Hotham and Falls take around two hours for an average reasonably fit rider. Taking the course as a whole, there are four steep sections on Hotham, and obviously extended steep sections up Falls, but otherwise the gradients are manageable. Good descending is more important at 3PC than Fitz's.

I see 3PC as more of a climbers course, Fitz's is more of a hard person's course.

The "normal" 208 km of Fitz's is definitely not as hard as 3PC. The 255 km version is definitely harder.

Both rides were changed this year, although the changes at Fitz's was more minor. But taking 2012 results, where both rides had their "normal" courses for myself and some friends who did both (noting much smaller numbers at Fitz's, the 208 km had 136 finishers, whilst the 255 km had 44 finishers and 15 who started but did not finish). The 2012 3PC, the "good" year, had 881 finishers, and only about 60 who started and didn't finish.

208 km Fitz riders:

Me: 8 hours 52 at Fitz for 18th, 11h 10 at 3PC for 283rd home.
DK: Same as me at Fitz, 10 h 11 at 3PC for 108th.

255 km Fitz riders:

PB: 10h 38 at Fitz's for 14th, 8 h 57 at 3PC for 15th.
JE: same as PB at Fitz's, 9h 32 at 3PC for 42nd.

FWIW PB and JE are very different riders - PB is one of the best climbers I know, small build and big engine, with extensive racing experience. At the end of Fitz's 2012 he looked like a used dishrag, he was absolutely spent. JE doesn't race but is one of the strongest Audax riders around, and is doing the Sydney to Melbourne epic next week, and was slightly better off.

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Something magical happens when daylight savings finally rolls around. It's like the weight of the long, cold winter is finally lifted and summer feels like it's just around the corner. Sure enough, it's slowly starting to warm up here in Melbourne and it's hard not to be excited about the opportunities for great riding in the months ahead.

One of the rides I'm most looking forward to is the Domestique 7 Peaks Ride at Lake Mountain on Sunday November 13. It's hard to believe that this is the fifth year that my good friend Andy and I have run these rides, but here we are!

For those that aren't familiar with Domestique, it's a collaboration between this site and the cycling collective that Andy heads up: Hells 500. Andy and I had been fans of the 7 Peaks Alpine Ascent Challenge (as it was called then - now 7 Peaks Ride) from the start and in 2012 we decided to organise some rides to coincide with the Challenge. Our goal: introduce people to the satisfaction of riding in the hills and help them to conquer the great mountains that our state of Victoria has to offer. It didn't matter whether you'd never climbed a mountain before or if you were a competitive local racer -- the ride was open to all, and free.

Four years on, those ideals haven't changed. Sure, the rides might look a little different than they once did -- doing 12 rides throughout the summer simply isn't feasible any more -- but the Domestique 7 Peaks rides are still free, they're still inclusive, and they're still a great day out, whether you're climbing Lake Mountain for the first time, trying to get yourself into some form ahead of the summer, or deep into your training for the upcoming Tour of Bright.

So get a bunch of mates together, or come by yourself. It really doesn't matter. With so many cyclists there you'll always find someone to ride with, and you'll always have a "carrot" up the road, spurring you on! One thing we can guarantee is that there'll be a friendly, welcoming atmosphere on the day and that you'll almost certainly have a great time. Even when it's been cold and wet up there in the past we've had fun! (Of course we'll be pulling as many strings as we can to ensure great weather this year ...)

2014 Lake Mountain Bunch

So what are you doing on Sunday November 13? We do hope you'll join us. The event starts at Gallipoli Park in Marysville at 9am with a quick rider briefing, after which we'll be sending you off in waves. Then it's just about settling in to a rhythm and climbing your way to the Lake Mountain resort at your own pace.

To register for the ride, click here (again, it's free). To stay up to date on the ride, head through to the Facebook event page. And to learn more about Domestique Cycling, head to the website.

And finally, if you're keen to see what the ride will be like, click the links below for reports and photos from the past four years:

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Obviously it depends on the distance you choose but how does Fitz's Challenge compare to the 3 Peaks Challenge? Looks like a bloody hard ride! http://www.fitzs.com.au/

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The rides are quite different. On 3PC you can focus on the 3 main climbs, plus maybe the hillocks either side of Omeo, and otherwise just stay out of trouble on the descents and manage yourself over the distance.

At Fitz's the hills are shorter, and steep gradients are a regular feature around the course. The longest hill at Fitz's takes 45 minutes.

At 3PC, Hotham and Falls take around two hours for an average reasonably fit rider. Taking the course as a whole, there are four steep sections on Hotham, and obviously extended steep sections up Falls, but otherwise the gradients are manageable. Good descending is more important at 3PC than Fitz's.

I see 3PC as more of a climbers course, Fitz's is more of a hard person's course.

The "normal" 208 km of Fitz's is definitely not as hard as 3PC. The 255 km version is definitely harder.

Both rides were changed this year, although the changes at Fitz's was more minor. But taking 2012 results, where both rides had their "normal" courses for myself and some friends who did both (noting much smaller numbers at Fitz's, the 208 km had 136 finishers, whilst the 255 km had 44 finishers and 15 who started but did not finish). The 2012 3PC, the "good" year, had 881 finishers, and only about 60 who started and didn't finish.

208 km Fitz riders:

Me: 8 hours 52 at Fitz for 18th, 11h 10 at 3PC for 283rd home.
DK: Same as me at Fitz, 10 h 11 at 3PC for 108th.

255 km Fitz riders:

PB: 10h 38 at Fitz's for 14th, 8 h 57 at 3PC for 15th.
JE: same as PB at Fitz's, 9h 32 at 3PC for 42nd.

FWIW PB and JE are very different riders - PB is one of the best climbers I know, small build and big engine, with extensive racing experience. At the end of Fitz's 2012 he looked like a used dishrag, he was absolutely spent. JE doesn't race but is one of the strongest Audax riders around, and is doing the Sydney to Melbourne epic next week, and was slightly better off.

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Something magical happens when daylight savings finally rolls around. It's like the weight of the long, cold winter is finally lifted and summer feels like it's just around the corner. Sure enough, it's slowly starting to warm up here in Melbourne and it's hard not to be excited about the opportunities for great riding in the months ahead.

One of the rides I'm most looking forward to is the Domestique 7 Peaks Ride at Lake Mountain on Sunday November 13. It's hard to believe that this is the fifth year that my good friend Andy and I have run these rides, but here we are!

For those that aren't familiar with Domestique, it's a collaboration between this site and the cycling collective that Andy heads up: Hells 500. Andy and I had been fans of the 7 Peaks Alpine Ascent Challenge (as it was called then - now 7 Peaks Ride) from the start and in 2012 we decided to organise some rides to coincide with the Challenge. Our goal: introduce people to the satisfaction of riding in the hills and help them to conquer the great mountains that our state of Victoria has to offer. It didn't matter whether you'd never climbed a mountain before or if you were a competitive local racer -- the ride was open to all, and free.

Four years on, those ideals haven't changed. Sure, the rides might look a little different than they once did -- doing 12 rides throughout the summer simply isn't feasible any more -- but the Domestique 7 Peaks rides are still free, they're still inclusive, and they're still a great day out, whether you're climbing Lake Mountain for the first time, trying to get yourself into some form ahead of the summer, or deep into your training for the upcoming Tour of Bright.

So get a bunch of mates together, or come by yourself. It really doesn't matter. With so many cyclists there you'll always find someone to ride with, and you'll always have a "carrot" up the road, spurring you on! One thing we can guarantee is that there'll be a friendly, welcoming atmosphere on the day and that you'll almost certainly have a great time. Even when it's been cold and wet up there in the past we've had fun! (Of course we'll be pulling as many strings as we can to ensure great weather this year ...)

2014 Lake Mountain Bunch

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Obviously it depends on the distance you choose but how does Fitz's Challenge compare to the 3 Peaks Challenge? Looks like a bloody hard ride! http://www.fitzs.com.au/

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The rides are quite different. On 3PC you can focus on the 3 main climbs, plus maybe the hillocks either side of Omeo, and otherwise just stay out of trouble on the descents and manage yourself over the distance.

At Fitz's the hills are shorter, and steep gradients are a regular feature around the course. The longest hill at Fitz's takes 45 minutes.

At 3PC, Hotham and Falls take around two hours for an average reasonably fit rider. Taking the course as a whole, there are four steep sections on Hotham, and obviously extended steep sections up Falls, but otherwise the gradients are manageable. Good descending is more important at 3PC than Fitz's.

I see 3PC as more of a climbers course, Fitz's is more of a hard person's course.

The "normal" 208 km of Fitz's is definitely not as hard as 3PC. The 255 km version is definitely harder.

Both rides were changed this year, although the changes at Fitz's was more minor. But taking 2012 results, where both rides had their "normal" courses for myself and some friends who did both (noting much smaller numbers at Fitz's, the 208 km had 136 finishers, whilst the 255 km had 44 finishers and 15 who started but did not finish). The 2012 3PC, the "good" year, had 881 finishers, and only about 60 who started and didn't finish.

208 km Fitz riders:

Me: 8 hours 52 at Fitz for 18th, 11h 10 at 3PC for 283rd home.
DK: Same as me at Fitz, 10 h 11 at 3PC for 108th.

255 km Fitz riders:

PB: 10h 38 at Fitz's for 14th, 8 h 57 at 3PC for 15th.
JE: same as PB at Fitz's, 9h 32 at 3PC for 42nd.

FWIW PB and JE are very different riders - PB is one of the best climbers I know, small build and big engine, with extensive racing experience. At the end of Fitz's 2012 he looked like a used dishrag, he was absolutely spent. JE doesn't race but is one of the strongest Audax riders around, and is doing the Sydney to Melbourne epic next week, and was slightly better off.

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The rides are quite different. On 3PC you can focus on the 3 main climbs, plus maybe the hillocks either side of Omeo, and otherwise just stay out of trouble on the descents and manage yourself over the distance.

At Fitz's the hills are shorter, and steep gradients are a regular feature around the course. The longest hill at Fitz's takes 45 minutes.

At 3PC, Hotham and Falls take around two hours for an average reasonably fit rider. Taking the course as a whole, there are four steep sections on Hotham, and obviously extended steep sections up Falls, but otherwise the gradients are manageable. Good descending is more important at 3PC than Fitz's.

I see 3PC as more of a climbers course, Fitz's is more of a hard person's course.

The "normal" 208 km of Fitz's is definitely not as hard as 3PC. The 255 km version is definitely harder.

Both rides were changed this year, although the changes at Fitz's was more minor. But taking 2012 results, where both rides had their "normal" courses for myself and some friends who did both (noting much smaller numbers at Fitz's, the 208 km had 136 finishers, whilst the 255 km had 44 finishers and 15 who started but did not finish). The 2012 3PC, the "good" year, had 881 finishers, and only about 60 who started and didn't finish.

208 km Fitz riders:

Me: 8 hours 52 at Fitz for 18th, 11h 10 at 3PC for 283rd home.
DK: Same as me at Fitz, 10 h 11 at 3PC for 108th.

255 km Fitz riders:

PB: 10h 38 at Fitz's for 14th, 8 h 57 at 3PC for 15th.
JE: same as PB at Fitz's, 9h 32 at 3PC for 42nd.

FWIW PB and JE are very different riders - PB is one of the best climbers I know, small build and big engine, with extensive racing experience. At the end of Fitz's 2012 he looked like a used dishrag, he was absolutely spent. JE doesn't race but is one of the strongest Audax riders around, and is doing the Sydney to Melbourne epic next week, and was slightly better off.

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