Help:Adding a new climb guide

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Want to add a climb to the wiki? Great! Here's a step-by-step guide that will help you get started. We suggest you leave this page open in one window and reopen the wiki in a separate window and follow along there.

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Create the page[edit]

The easiest way to create a new page is from the search results page you were just on when searching for an existing climb. If the page doesn't exist you'll see a prompt at the bottom of the page that says "Create the page PAGENAME on this wiki!" where PAGENAME is the name you searched for. Make sure that you're abiding by this wiki's naming conventions (e.g. "Mount Hotham" instead of "Mt. Hotham", or "Johnson Road" instead of "Johnson Rd"), and then click on the link to get through to your blank page.

If the name of the road is already claimed by another climb, then please add (Suburb Name) to the PAGENAME. For example if Smith Road is taken already, use Smith Road (Smithville) to distinguish the climb. Also be sure to rename the original climb page too, giving it a suburb name. If you're worried about the ramifications of this or think it could be controversial, leave a comment on the "Discussion" page of the original page.

For other ways of creating a blank page, click here.

Import the template[edit]

To make it as easy to add a new climb guide as possible, and to ensure consistency across the site, we've created a template which you just need to fill in when adding a new climb. Once you're at the blank page you created in the previous step, the page URL (in the address bar) will look something like this:

http://theclimbingcyclist.com/wiki/Mount_Donna_Buang?action=edit

Simply add the following code to the end of the URL:

&preload=Template:Climb_guide

So in our example above, the new URL would be:

http://theclimbingcyclist.com/wiki/Mount_Donna_Buang?action=edit&preload=Template:Climb_guide

Hit enter to reload the page and you'll see a whole lot of text in the edit screen – this is the climb guide template.

Note: If you've added climbs before and you prefer to import a blank template with only minimal dummy text, you can add the following text to your URL:

&preload=Template:Climb_guide_blank

Fill in the data[edit]

Every piece of capitalised text in the template indicates a section where information is required. This text also explains what you need to provide – simply replace the capitalised text with the relevant information. You can click "Show preview" at the bottom of the page at any time to see how the page is looking. Click "Save page" to publish your changes to the site.

There might be sections of the guide you aren't able to add initially, and that's fine. This is a wiki after all – someone else can jump in and make the updates later. Please ensure you put "comment tags" around anything you aren't able to do. That is, put a <!-- before the section you can't complete and a --> after it.

For example, if you aren't able to add any extra notes to the guide (which is fine), do the following:

<!--== Notes == IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS CLIMB? DOES SNOW MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO RIDE IN WINTER? IS THERE A TOLL TO CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN? ANYTHING ELSE WORTH NOTING?-->

Filling in most sections of the template should be pretty straightforward if you read the capitalised dummy text, but here are a few things to be mindful of:

Start and finish coordinates[edit]

In order to get the maps to work in your climb guide, you'll need to know the geographic coordinates of the start and finish of the climb. The easiest way to do this is to go to Google Maps.

If you're using the latest version of Google Maps, simply right click on the map in the relevant location and click "What's here?". In the top left of the screen, just below the search box, you'll see the coordinates pop up. Simply copy them and paste them into the template in that form (e.g 39.805756, -108.393155).

If you're using the Classic Google Maps you follow the same process, but the coordinates will be in the search box, rather than just below it.

Note that you'll need to paste the start coordinates in twice (once in the Infobox near the top and once in the Map section) and the finish coordinates in once (in the Map section).

Climb categorisation[edit]

In this wiki we use Strava's climb categorisation equation to classify climbs. If there's a Strava segment for the climb you're entering, simply take the category from the segment. If there isn't a Strava segment, you can work out the categorisation as follows:

Multiply the length of the climb (in meters) by the average grade of the climb (in percent) then compare the result to the following:

  • Cat 4: 8000 to 16,000
  • Cat 3: 16,001 to 32,000
  • Cat 2: 32,001 to 64,000
  • Cat 1: 64,001 to 80,000
  • HC: 80,000 and above

For example, if you've got a 6.8km long climb with an average gradient of 4%, you do: 6800 x 4 = 27,200 = Cat 3

If the length x average gradient is less than 8000, it is given the label "SC", which can stand for "sous categorie" (below categorisation), "sans categorie" (without classification) or "short climb".

Inserting images[edit]

To submit a complete climb guide you'll need to upload a minimum of three images: a climb profile, a photo of the start, and a photo of the finish. To do this, open the "Upload file" interface in a separate window via the link provided, or in the tools menu on the left-hand side of the page.

The images you upload shouldn't be bigger than 800px wide and the preferred file format is .jpg. Click "Choose file", select your image then click "Upload file". Once it's uploaded, copy the name of the file (e.g. Mountainprofile.jpg) and paste it into the relevant section of the template.

If you'd prefer to upload multiple files at a time, head to the MultiUpload page.

Please ensure you aren't uploading images you don't own the copyright to.

Note: you need to be signed in to upload images.

Google Street View images[edit]

If you don't have photos of the climb, you may be able to use Google Street View images. They're generally not as good as ones taken especially for the purpose, but they are often useful.

Do not take screen captures of GSV images and upoad them to the wiki, as this is a copyright violation and violates Google's Terms of Service. However, there is a "widget" for the Wiki that allows you to embed the images from Google in the page, which is fine.

To insert these, follow the instructions on the Help:Adding Google Street View images page.

Creating climb profiles[edit]

To create terrific-looking and informative climb profiles, we recommend using the free Mesmeride website. Check out one of these profiles at the Kinglake climb page or here.

To create a profile head to the Mesmeride website then sign in with your Strava account. Click on "Import Strava Activity", scroll to the bottom of the page, then paste in the URL of the relevant Strava segment (e.g. http://app.strava.com/segments/629743) into the text box in the "Import specific activity, segment or effort" section. If that doesn't work, find a Strava activity where you've done the segment in question then paste in a link to your effort on that climb (e.g. http://app.strava.com/activities/54787026#997522784).

When the profile appears, right-click to save the image then upload the image as normal before inserting it into the page.

Categories[edit]

Assigning categories to a climb guide is arguably the most important part of the process. Doing this properly will ensure that a climb is easily discoverable by those that come searching and that it appears where it should on the wiki.

There are two main categories types that each climb should have an entry for: the road surface and its location.

For the road surface, it's a case of selecting one (or more) of the following to add. For example, if a climb is partially sealed and partially cobbled, choose both of the last two:

  • [[Category:Unsealed climbs]]
  • [[Category:Cobbled climbs]]
  • [[Category:Sealed climbs]]

For the climb's location, there's a tiny bit more work involved.

Each climb is assigned a category based on a region, for example [[Category:Climbs in the Dandenong Ranges]] for The 1 in 20. Each region category sits within a state/territory/province category, [[Category:Climbs in Victoria]] in the case of [[Category:Climbs in the Dandenong Ranges]]. And each state/territory/province category since within a nation category, e.g. [[Category:Climbs in Australia]].

This hierarchy allows users to drill down into a particular region to see specific climbs in that area, rather than a whole list for one country. In order to categorise your climb guide appropriately, you need to use the lowest level category you can. So, again, in the case of The 1 in 20, it is classified in [[Category:Climbs in the Dandenong Ranges]], rather than [[Category:Climbs in Australia]].

When assigning categories to a climb guide, you should first check to see whether a relevant category exists for the region your climb falls in. You can do so by expanding the category tree here on this page. If one exists, make sure you use that (being careful to avoid any typos).

If you need to create a category, simply add it to your climb guide in the format of the categories mentioned above, using the format "Climbs in NAME OF YOUR REGION". For example, "Climbs in the Grampians" or "Climbs in the Blue Mountains" or "Climbs in the Pilbara".

Things to bear in mind[edit]

Naming conventions[edit]

It's important that the climb guides in this wiki follow a consistent naming convention. When creating a new climb guide, the page should simply be the name of the climb, for example The 1 in 20 or Mount Buffalo. Some things to take note of:

  • Use a climb's most popular name. For example, some people might call the climb between The Basin and Sassafras the "Mountain Highway climb", but it's most well known as "The 1 in 20". The page should be titled as such, with any other variations noted in the introduction
  • Use "Mount Hotham" not "Mt. Hotham" or "Mt Hotham"
  • If there are multiple ways up to the top of a climb, differentiate them by putting the extra information in brackets. If there's a town nearby to where a particular side of the climb starts, use that in the title. For example, "Mount Macedon (Gisborne side)" or "Mont Ventoux (Bedoin side)". If there are no nearby towns or it doesn't make sense to use a town as extra information, simply use the direction. For example, "Mount Simon (north side)".

The more info the better[edit]

The more information you can provide when creating a new climb guide, the better. Of course you might not know everything about a particular climb, in which case just add as much info as you can. Better to have an incomplete page (which someone can then go and add to later) than one that doesn't even exist.

As mentioned above, place comment tags around any sections in the template you aren't able to fill in.

Resources[edit]

The Climbing Cyclist Wiki uses the same software as Wikipedia and other popular wikis - a software package called MediaWiki - so if you've ever edited one of these sites you'll have no trouble here. Here are some basic resources to get you started: